Find many great new & used options and get the best deals for FACTORY Walther Magazine Mag for P22Q 10 Rd 22 22LR Clip P22 512604 at the best online prices at eBay! Actually, Joe is still enjoying it since he couldnt bring himself to return the loaner and decided, instead, to purchase it. A poor design on the Walther model that allows the . Also, thanks to the .22 LR magazine being so slim but the PPQ .22s grip being the normal width, the pistol benefits from a sweet magwell. It works with easily visible sights that give faster target acquisition. Beyond these items, theres very little that Walther has to offer. But most reviews ive seen and read say that it has some issues. Except I wished they would have kept the Euro mag release paddles. Love Walther now. Adding to that, when racking the slide if I ride it forward, I can actually let go when I feel some friction and get the slide to stick on the barrel and it just overall feels super gritty racking the slide. Question of the Day: Should Disguising a Real Gun as a Toy be Illegal? Three backstraps accommodate different shooters as well. My wife told me to buy her a new one, thats why I read this review. By accepting all cookies, you agree to our use of cookies to deliver and maintain our services and site, improve the quality of Reddit, personalize Reddit content and advertising, and measure the effectiveness of advertising. Dont get me wrong, by no means do I consider myself a professional shooter. Its all going to come down to trigger really. I have shot both and the M2 magazine release looks and feels like it was an afterthough. When fired, it would fire correctly but the slide would not slide all the way back into place. Additionally, the importance of a slide that reliably locks back on empty is a matter of personal opinion for the intended use case of the pistol in question. Barrel Length: 4 inches. Over the years, Ive shot a very wide variety of semi-autos in all calibers and sizes, and have never once had an inadvertent double tap. Plus, theres other lead exposure from shooting bare lead bullets and it messes up the inside of your suppressor a lot more as lead will vaporize and fragment off from the hot gasses and going down the bore, etc. If I had to choose between the PPQ and the VP9 I would take the PPQ every time. Rapid fire no issues. Im going to go with keep the ramp polished. It has been sent back to Walther for a remedy.Check out the results of sending it . Get the rear sight sold by 10-8 performance: Walther PPQ Rear Sight - 10-8 Performance Store and get a fiber optic for the front sight. Walther dropped the original PPS's unusual "QuickSafe" striker-disconnect feature. Eight years after that, the P38 9mm was adapted as the standard service pistol of the German Army and saw decades of service in numerous countries following World War II. $34.99 . The PPQ is simply a P99 with improved ergonomics and with a Glock style trigger, only it was much lighter and crisper in comparison to other guns on the market.. Plus, the build quality inspires a higher level of confidence than the zinc alloy, farmed-out-to-a-BB-gun-factory norm. Only thing done is to experiment with different recoil springs. Dirty cambers or feed ramp: This problem can also occur when the chamber, the feed ramp, or both are dirty. Keeping it internal maintains the same external appearance of the pistol. If they have the same problems I'd contact Walther and send it in. Unless someone else is making .22 LR FMJ? The trigger is absolutely sweet ! Any chance this would work with a walther PPQ 43 cal paintball pistol, guys? But in the six months Ive owned it, at least 500 rounds have been put through it between myself, my family members and friends. I was definitely pleased to see this PPQ run everything. Overall Length: 7.5 inches. Walther has enjoyed a reputation for producing some of the most ergonomic pistols on the market, but Id definitely say theyve broken new ground with the PPQ. I couldnt resist how it felt in my hand, and oh what a magical trigger reset! Well, I thought this was going to be a good battle, turns out the 2nd Walther PPQ started doing the exact same thing as the 1st one did. I hate when I shoot a lot of .22 LR and my thumb has a giant lead streak on it from loading bare lead bullets. This full-size 9mm or 45 ACP striker-fired pistol features a textured grip surface and three interchangeable backstraps, an integral Picatinny rail for mounting aftermarket accessories, three-dot low profile sights that won't snag when drawn from concealment, and a double . True. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. Do the research. This time Im calling dibs, and just plunked down some sawbucks of my own to add this bad boy to the stable . This is The Best Running .22 pistol I have Ever used in 55 years. The PPQ .22 is a PPQM2.22, which means a thumb button magazine release rather than the original PPQs trigger guard paddles. Easy for me to rack the slide. Now I can field strip the PPQ and put it back together again in an average time of 30 seconds. If you're pressed on time, here's a quick list of the best sights for Walther PPQ M2: Meprolight Tru-Dot Self-illuminated Night Sight: Best Rear Sight. You wont regret purchasing the 9mm (assuming you havent already). Eh, just another GLOCK copy, you say? For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. 'Classic' here, no problems. Also, once it is bent, you can not straighten it back. Reliability: * * * * * I haven't had any problem with printing even with my "slight" frame. I ran a couple of strings of M-22 (one of their preferred ammo types), CCI 1200 and 1640 FPS, and a Remington 1200 FPS without any problems, so it appears the earlier problem is gone. The trigger pull, especially on the first shot, is quite heavy. I was a Walther fan immediately after I purchased the PPK/S .380ACP and the .22LR. Have you taken it apart and cleaned/lubed it? Below are the probable causes of failure to fire and their suitable solutions. Not sure about what's being said on the forums, but I can offer my own personal experience: Thx all. Call S&W if you still have problems. The PPQ has a 100% pre-cocked trigger thereby making it Single Action. Cracks and cratering have been documented with 45 barrels, yet Walther claims that "it's normal". Accounts of this are all over the internet. To me the P99 AS might be the best 9mm pistol ever made. The whole reason people choose 9mm over 45acp is because you can get more hits on target faster with less training. PPQ 45 is an efficient gun with good ergonomics. Remember, it resides in a channel, not out in the open, like you have it. First off it's bit picky with the ammo, which I can deal with, but is there any ammo, especially hollowpoints . The frame is the same polymer that you get on the big boy toys, and it has steel inserts for the slide rails, barrel block, and basically all of the moving parts. Then next day slide completely locked with Tulammo 115. Wrong or defective ammunition: One cause of failure to feed is that either your ammunition is defective or you are using the wrong one. I thought maybe it was a lemon gun, so I did some extensive Interweb searching and found numerous forums where others had the same complaint. A range master took a look at it, and it discharged while uncocked, finger off trigger. Walther PK380 just points and shoots, very easy. Now, it comes out in .22LR. The solution to this problem is to replace the front sight. Hopefully the FTE problem has a solution other than going to CCI 1640 FPS ammo. Now, after lots of dry-fire practice and about 5000 rounds at the range, I better understand why its called Quick Defense Trigger. Whats the difference? Id love to see a head-to- head comparo of the PPQ and the PPX to see what exactly is different about them, subjectively. My Sigs and H&Ks sit in my safe. Sorry, that was a bit sloppy and colloquial rather than technically accurate. Not totally sure though. 1 more mm and it is sticking out of frame to the right. I was trying to decide whether to change out some of my S&Ws for a new brand. Purchase a Walther at your own Risk. discussions around Walther firearms including but not limited to the PPK, PPK/S, PP, P38, PPQ, PPS, P99, PPX, CCP, PK380, P22, G22, WA2000, VG, G43, G41, MP, CREED, and Q5 Match. The Striker Photo source: Walther Forums. We do not want to get a Ruger 10/45 or Buckmark. Weight w/ Empty Magazine:19 oz, 19.1 oz, or 20 oz, respective to barrel options. I attribute this to many qualities of the pistol: the ergonomics, trigger, and good engineering from Walther. I have heard of a few guys who have over 40,000 rounds . Jose, I think youve put your finger on the problem. Every person is different, so thats why the PPQ comes with three different backstraps. What are those first two rules again? Caliber: 9mm, also available in .40 S&W. Capacity: 15+1 for 9mm, 11+1 for .40 S&W. Sights: front sight is 3-dot low profile polymer; rear sight windage adjustable, steel night sights available, I have a PPQ 9mm that's never skipped a beat. The first 2 mags were great, for the rest, in every mag I had some sort issue- failure to feed the next round, where I had to drop the mag and clear the unspent/jammed round. Great gun, like the paddle mag release, love the trigger. Next, and my biggest issue with this gun is that the slide is consistently fails to return to battery or is delayed by half a second or so. We are here as a community to discuss handguns and share our thoughts on what we have and what we are looking to purchase. For one, the grips are textured much more aggressively than the P99. The momentum of the gun dropping back after recoil can be enough to cause ones finger to bump the trigger 0.1 inch and cause it to fire. It seems a pain to have to remove the threaded barrel adapter/sleeve every time you want to disassemble and clean the weapon. To give you an idea of how well the Tenifer finish held up, this past summer and fall I packed the PPQ as my carry sidearm on everything from rough motorcycle/ATV trips in heavy dust to elk and deer hunting in torrential downpours up in Idahos wind chilly mountains. So far thats 100% not the case here. . So, to avoid this problem, check the magazine and magazine release for proper engagement. Walther's New PPQ Subcompact Raises the Bar in the Concealed Carry Market (Full Review) by Jordan Michaels on October 18, 2018. . I traded in my Glock 19 for a PPQ M1 in 9mm, I chose the paddle release as I do not have to alter my grip to release a magazine. Walther Arms has always been a gun company thats taken higher steps in innovation with each new firearm. Your Walther PPQ might fail to feed. The firing pin has nothing to do with your problem. I'm 6'0 tall, and weigh 150 lbs. Well Ive had this issue as well. They sent a new compensator. If I can get a chance to shoot a PPQ I just may replace my G19. It has quickly gained a reputation for being a fast and ergonomically focused firearm. Nonetheless, a couple of compelling criticisms exist with the P99. Gun Manufacturers would sell a lot more .22 guns if Ammo Suppliers could keep up with the demand for .22 ammo. Notify me of follow-up comments by email. You have to make sure that you have a firm platform for the gun to operate against. I see that as getting use to the trigger. There are more than 16.3 million concealed carry permit holders in the U.S. in 2017, per the Crime Prevention Research . The Tenifer finish is as tough as nails. I personally do not want to own a firearm from a Company that will not stand behind their product. "scopesandstuff.com" is a participant in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means for sites to earn advertising fees by advertising and linking to Amazon.com. A lot of that was due to the weapons ban of the 90s and restrictions that were put on the pistol for importing to the US. In many ways, the P99 is everything the GLOCK isand then some. Their representative Conner in customer service, refused to have it returned for Walther to fix the firearm. very reliable, at least with one type of ammo Replace the locking block to fix it. and just to be sure were clear here in case you didnt see it in the review, the PPQ M2 .22 has no pot metal (zinc alloy, ZAMAK, etc) in it at all, No zinc alloy here. When Ive increased my distance from the target to around 40 to 50 feet, my groups do widen, but not significantly. You can also use it as a home defense gun and range toy. threaded barrel. Here is the disassembly process for the PPQ: 2. A check of this pistol at a Smith forum might indicate the same problem. Seems like you would want a quicker reset for a defense gun What do I know? The solution is to replace the ammunition. We tried Brownings Performance yellow box and it shot terribly. So, you are going to make sure you replace that. That is the one real big negative I had on the pistol, but Talon grips changed the grip big time and it actually grips and feels better than the PPQ in hand once this is done. I added Talon grips on my P99 and once this is done ergonomically it is almost the same as the PPQ. The basic maintenance and care include springs and parts that you should monitor every 5000 rounds or so. All these amazing features make it one perfect casual outerwear to get compliments from your fashion friends. I was happy bc they sent me a brand new Mosquito. With a name like the Performance Duty . Hard to pass up. My PPS M2 came with the rear site moved over so far to the right that is will not co witness with optics. In .22 LR? In Europe this gun is as revered as any pistol out there, even HKs. Primarily this is intended for mounting a suppressor, but if youre bored you can also mount any AR-15 or other 1/228 muzzle device: A P22 thread adapter does work on the PPQ, so that opens up options for aftermarket versions. However, another reason is if somebody rides a slide forward while chambering the first round and doesnt apply enough force required to let the slide go. No doubt this gun has a nice grip/feel. Its great to have the similar features and accessories etc, but the sights are different and the back strap is fixed. This review is going to be a bit shorter than normal, as Im going to refer yall back to Joes write-up on the 9mm version and/or my video review of it. Notify me of follow-up comments by email. Home of the handguns. One of the reasons I love my CZ Kadet Adapter .22 LR upper conversion for my SP-01 is that it allows me to shoot .22 LR with the same grip, controls, and trigger as my go-to pistol, and the PPQ .22 can also provide this kind of experience for centerfire PPQ owners. Create an account to follow your favorite communities and start taking part in conversations. I dont believe that these were meant to be activated by the thumb and these folks should try using the trigger finger to actuate the magazine release. Walther PPQ M2 X/XS F8 Night Sights 9mm. I recently purchased a Walther CCP M2, primarily due to the touted recoil reduction of the gas delayed action as well as the nice grip and stainless slide. I think the main selling point of the Walther 22 is that it does not look like a .22. I love my PPQ M1 so its too bad this pistol got such a good review here, means Im probably gonna have to buy it. Come join the discussion about optics, gunsmithing, styles, reviews, accessories, classifieds, and more! No failure to fires in about 5000 rounds, I had 2 or 3 accidental discharges at the range during my first 100 rounds when doing quick firing drills. Whatever works for you is what you should go with, so try out all three before making your decision. Replacing the ammunition is the fix to this problem. The Walther P22 was one of the original semi-auto .22LR handguns and has been satisfying shooters since 2002. Laugh. The barrel and the slide are not correctly aligning while going back to the battery. With the hammer down theres more resistance to cycling the slide, but its still quite a bit less than on your typical centerfire pistol. Luckily he was following range rules and had it pointed downrange. One question: For long-term durability a steel breech block, containing the firing pin mechanism, extractor, breech face, etc is pinned into the slide. Weak recoil spring: Feeding issues can also occur if the recoil spring of your gun is weak. Haha. Hmm not making that clear in the review was definitely an oversight. The reach to the trigger is comfortable and the trigger pull is light enough to be easy and controllable but heavy enough that it isnt hazardous for less experienced shooters. That Mystic is a big, heavy suppressor and I couldnt shoot quickly enough to move the point of impact or anything of that sort. The factory P99 grips do tend to get really slick if you perspire or have anything on your hands. I took it apart and everything was clean. Does the Smith/Walther relationship still exist? Both are mid-sized, polymer, striker-fired 9mm pistols, making them ideal for concealed carry, home defense or to serve as a go-to open carry sidearm. 9 Cleaning Kit with Aluminum Rod, GuardTech Plus Upgraded Universal Gun Cleaning Kit iunio Gun Cleaning Kit, Universal Gun Cleaning, Eotech 512 vs 552 Which One Should You Choose. Dirty pistol: If your pistol is not properly cleaned and maintained, it can fail to fire. The PPQ with the paddle release (called the PPQ M1) will even accept the same magazines as the P99, and the two pistols are . Carries very nicely in my iwb Black Arch holster. That trigger might be good for a safe-action polymer gun, but it doesnt compare to a decent SA trigger, like a CZ, 1911, or Sig. You may also contact us by phone at 1-866-503-3389, by email at ppsm2recall@WaltherArms.com or by mail at Walther Arms, Inc., 7700 Chad Colley Boulevard, Fort Smith, AR 72916. What are the best ammo brands and bulk ammo brands for the PPQ? But. I look forward in the future to putting more types of ammo through the PPQ and seeing if its reliability holds up, which I suspect it will. Shooter-induced limp wristing: This problem can also occur due to limp wristing. 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