"Personally, I got what I needed, but if you look at the bigger picture with all these other veterans, they don't know what necessarily to do," he said. How long did a soldier have to serve in Vietnam? At this rate there will be only a few of us alive in 2015. for 30 years and now runs Opus Peace, a nonprofit that provides educational materials for health . Baughman, who is thin and weak, recently plucked out "Country Roads" on a bass during a jam session at his cabin in West Virginia. The program is for federal, state and local communities, Veterans' organizations and other nongovernmental organizations. This article highlights the eligibility criteria and important information for filing a claim for benefits. Looking for people who served in the 134th assault helicopter co. from 1971 to 1972. Except for one, we were all medics. I have had cancer in the crease of my neck were a knot on a kerchief rubbed, and sores in my scalp were the canvas of the helmet sat on my head. Jaundice, itchy skin, weight loss and other symptoms appear only when the disease is in its final stages. Now I find the same scenario occurring with this AO fiasco. Back in the States, Langenus quickly discovered the GI benefits available for Vietnam veterans were almost nonexistent. While living in New York, he developed symptoms of malariaa tropical disease fairly uncommon in the concrete jungleyet he was denied VA health care because he didnt display those symptoms in Vietnam. im a vietnam vet.i was in the army from 1964 1967.i went to vietnam in october 1965-1966.i was in charlie , company.2-16,infantry, rangers.we fought in many battles.the biggest was operation abilene,april 11th,1966.we had 80% csaulties.i was awarded the silver star,and purple heart for that battle.i became a detroit poilce officer after i left the army.i retired,and moved to san diego ca,after retirment.i then worked as a court secutity officer for the united states marshal,in san diego.i had a very seroius heart attack,and several strokes.im retired now.im a life member of the vietnam veterans of america,life member of the D.A.V. Of the 50 blood samples submitted, more than 20 percent came back positive or bordering positive for liver fluke antibodies, said Sung-Tae Hong, the tropical medicine specialist who carried out the tests at Seoul National University in South Korea. (Reuters Health) - Higher than average death rates among Vietnam War veterans with post-traumatic stress disorder (PTSD) suggest that combat trauma may still be affecting veterans' health even decades after the war, according to a new study. I am unable to find the museum websites referred to, though I find a National War Museum and a Veterans Memorial Museum. I was transfered to the 201st aviation co. in Nha Trang in 1972 to finnish my tour . Please post the SOURCE of this statistic. Bill. Patsy T. Mink, (U.S. House of Rep-Hawaii) get honored with a burial in Punchbowl. statistics that are at once depressing yet in a larger sense should give you a HUGE SENSE OF PRIDE. Veterans returning from Vietnam were met with an institutional response marked by indifference. NO I was stationed on Hill 55 for 6 months, and stationed at Da Nang Air Base (Rocket City as you know) with 1st L.A.A.M. Hi Mike. No 'Welcome Home' parades for Vietnam vets. Can you send flowers anonymously through 1800flowers? He would not comment on the findings, but said everyone who tested positive was notified. god bless america,and our veterans. CIB air medalan dall that. Then compare that report to the Tripler Psychologist report of a (get this) 5 minute interview. The number of Vietnam veterans affected by the chemical Agent Orange is astonishing. Often asked: What To Say In A Letter To A Veteran? Very good but alarming article. My buddy Jim was stationed with MAG-11. i was in a compound & seen them spraying and the next day everywhere they sprayed was brown. I heard a pop and at that time guys used to mess with pin flairs so when I was awaken by a popping sound I thought it was a pin flair going off. Did you know that is the day Ho Chi Minh died? they have in all wars. Tragically, though, many veterans have since died waiting for their approval and related benefits. This is hard to believe, The number of claims submitted reached 60 in 2017, up from 41 last year. I found out later that most of the men who enlisted for 4 years volunteeredfor I am a Marine Vietnam Vet (6/67-7/68) & a MarineDesert Shield/Storm Vet. She was right. A fellow soldier in the 134th assault helicopter company with me shot and killed himself just down the hall from where I slept while I was sleeping. There is a certaincourage and loyalty that transends the injustice rendered to these men and as long as America has men like this it will always be free. Lost contact with him years ago, wish him the best. So, we wonder eh? Vietnam veterans are reaching a point in their lives where they may be retired, losing the past support systems of family and friends, susceptible to depression and prime candidates for. to indicate what they want but I do have to believe that these may be close 800k approx left, sort of sobering uh. The veterans outreach counseling is good for PTSD Tx, etc. Vietnam Veterans may be eligible for disability compensation benefits because of exposure to Agent Orange. I was married for 30 years, then divorced now for 10. Why are Vietnam vets dying so fast? The 173rd Infantry Brigade was activated in 1915 and served in World War II. Related:More evidence Agent Orange causes cancer. Im sure the Agent Orange was the cause of most health issues. Be safe and well Welcome Home This figure far exceeded the expected suicide ratio when balanced by demographics and applied to ONLY those that had served in country. I found out he was on the plane behind me after roll call satin the rain and mud How Many Veterans Are Enrolled In College? Its better than them walking away and not even recognizing you. We flew to Okinawa, and during the flight on Flying Tiger airlines from Okinawa one of the four engines stopped, we had to make a emergency landing back at Okinawa. So my main man at the DAV said were not going to appeal. I served in Nam 68-69 with Shore Party detached to the 5th Marines in An Hoa. He was the youngest American service member to be killed in the Vietnam War. M c Clurg, Ernest H. Some of it came from a VFW Post. The collective emotion of the country was divided, says Jerry Lembke, a Vietnam veteran, sociologist and author of The Spitting Image: Myth, Memory, and the Legacy of Vietnam. I was nearly arrested for trying to defend my honor and service against that idiot. I am an in country vet and 59 years old, your article wasvery informative. This is around 9.7 percent of the generation at the time. James Ward was one of at least 18 juvenile soldiers killed at Vietnamfive were 16, like him, 11 others were 17, and one was 15 and had forged his birth certificate to join. Im a Life member of VVA, DAV and AMVETs; spend almost two years in Vet Nam as Medic with 145th Avn Btn AND 11th ARVN Airborne Brigade. Originating from New York City, Tom Selleck. lucky to be a Vietnam veteran alive.. in only 6 years.. Mike Baughman holds a 1971 photo of himself in his U.S. Army uniform at his home in Danville, California on Aug. 2, 2016. I take ware hearing aids and to this day Im always vigilant when Im out always See for yourself in 2000 there were 2.7 million Vietnam Veterans alive: http://www.census.gov/prod/2003pubs/c2kbr-22.pdf I sorts blended in until I retired in 2003 and joined the CT First Cav Assoc and finally met groundpounders like muself. Do you mean more information about Agent Orange? not too many left, Vietnam Veterans Dying Breed. Over time, swelling and inflammation of the bile duct can lead to cancer. If not mustard gas, then agent orange, the the Gulf syndrome. That number was reasonable: About 9.2 million Americans served in the military during the Vietnam. But looking out the window and seeing civilians stop to watch the small convoy of hospital-bound vehicles, his excitement turned to confusion. Greensburg, Indiana, U.S. Garwood was transferred to North Vietnam in 1969, and according to reports, he was freed in 1973 along with the other American prisoners of war as part of the Paris Peace Accords. Look upon myself as a well Semper Fi. jeff clutter. Some may have escaped the digs and harsh words and that is good but make no mistake those things did happen. good info on your post, keep up the good work! statistics that are at once depressing yet in a larger sense should give you a HUGE SENSE OF PRIDE. He now gets about $3,100 a month and says he's relieved to know his wife will continue to receive benefits after he dies. Who was the youngest American soldier killed in Vietnam? Finally after 10 months found a job,human resources person said that they didnot mind hiring Vietnam Veterans .as long as I was not drug addict or involved in any war attrocities. Nearly three out of four of those cases were also denied, even though the government posted a warning on its website this year saying veterans who ate raw or undercooked freshwater fish while in Vietnam might be at risk. -----In a closed society where everybody's guilty, the only crime is getting caught. Be careful of Appeals. His name is Ray Alvarado and you can Google his name or USS Rhona and read a wild story. When my wife and I go to a restaurant I always ask for a booth or table by the wall, so I can see whats going on around me. Jim and I flew from Da Nang, to Kadena Okinawa, and then after an attempt to fly out of Kadena in a Flying Tiger Line plane one of the 4 engines quit in mid-air, and we made an emergency landing back at Kadena, we stayed overnight and flew out in the same repaired airplane on to Travis A.F. I feel confident they will take care of you now. He and I just emailed each other on Jan. 2, 2011. Hello John: You must (with very few exceptions) have a high school diploma. If it is any comfort, one of my VVA pals reminds me that VVA only has a total of about 45,000 members nation wide, so it represents and very small part of all who served. Were going to demand an official review to a hearings officer. You must be at least 17 years old (17-year-old applicants require parental consent). In Country, that empty feeling was with me for years, until I worked for the Dept. "Of the 2,709,918 Americans who served in Vietnam, less than 850,000 are estimated to be alive today, with the youngest American Vietnam veteran's age approximated to be 54 years old." But he remains angry that other veterans' last days are consumed by fighting the same government they went to war for as young men. Especially if you are happily married. 101st Airborne 1971 Deeds need to be done in addition to words, says Wowwk, who is 100 percent disabled from his Vietnam wounds. Good luck and take care -Jim. During that same Census count, the number of Americans falsely claiming to (Reuters Health) - According to a new study, mortality rates among Vietnam Conflict veterans with post-traumatic stress disorder (PTSD) that were higher than usual imply that battle trauma may continue be damaging veterans' health even decades after the war. What percentage of Vietnam veterans actually saw combat? In my military career, I personaly wrote CIB support letters for over 20 non-11B soldiers whom I knew had spent more than 180 days in a forward deployed posture and were under combat conditions, 6 receiving purple hearts none received the CIB. We returned back to NY on Jan. 2, 1968. Anyone can use no. 1 killed in the Nam, 2 dead by their own hand. These statistics were taken from a variety of sources to include: The VFW Base, then to NY. He led his men on operations that lasted 30 days or more in some of Vietnams most inhospitable conditions, without shaving, bathing or changing clothing. Thank you. It is believed that less than 850,000 of the 2,709,918 Americans who served in Vietnam are still living today; the age of the youngest American Vietnam veteran is around 60 years old. He graduated from Notre Dame prior to being commissioned, and after his service returned to law school to cash in his educational benefits. The obituarities almostevery day in our area list someone who served in Vietnam. EM Club after that, I never saw Walker again. Some of the responses did not come through our site in a timely fashion. No way of accounting for the incidence of this from 1972-85. So long ago-time tames the memories and makes them Kind!!!! I do not concur with this figure. December 21, 1953 Goldsboro, North Carolina, U.S. Answer (1 of 4): Background During the 1980s, the postservice mortality component of the Vietnam Experience Study was conducted to examine the health effects of the Vietnam experience. Your email address will not be published. As of 2015 approximately 16,000 17-year-olds were being enlisted annually. Guy C. Lamunyon I have a few observations, but I will let you all go first. . When the diagnosis came, both Pete and Kate were sure they knew the cause: Pete's exposure to the chemical defoliant Agent Orange during his time as a helicopter crew chief in Vietnam. Aloha And approximately 164,000 Americans who served at sea in Vietnam waters are alive today. Why are Vietnam vets dying so fast? The Department of Veterans Affairs this spring commissioned a small pilot study to look into the link between liver flukes ingested through raw or undercooked fish and a rare bile duct cancer. Age: 77. How old did you have to be to be drafted in Vietnam? Still listen to 1960s rocknroll and those songs take me back to the Mekong Delta What is the average lifespan of a veteran? It got too overwhelming for me, there were so MANY. 390 deaths Considering the kind of information available about the death rate of WWII and Korean War Veterans, publicized information indicates that in the last 14 years Vietnam veterans are dying at the rate of 390 deaths each day. Ill never ware a baseball cap again ever! For a decade, as one person was shipped off to fight, another was returning. OK I found the source and and researching this more. It means Hill of Sacrifice. Celebrations aside, the government also failed to make good on its promises to those who served. Hopefully since most of us are inot our 60s now we have past the heart attacks and cancers that seem to get you in the 50s and maybe the rate will now slow. MarDivPhoto on Oct 9, 2009 refers to the American War Museum website, and mike_brewer on Oct 12, 2009 refers to the Vietnam War Museum, both as the source of the number 850,000 living Vietnam veterans. Why are Vietnam vets dying so fast? http://edschultz.invisionzone.com/index.php?showtopic=63544, MY MINISTRY: http://web.mac.com/rthorne2/Site/TRUTH_REVEALED_MINISTRY.html, De Nomie, William D. Sgt. Call me next week sometime, and I will help you with the stressor stuff. Grenada, Beirut Marine Barracks Bombing, Panama Invasion, and Gulf War Veterans will all start dying in large numbers. Yes some do fabricate stuff. All Rights Reserved. where did this nunber come from, the people I am dealing with look closely at source material and I would really like to use this. I was wondering about these statistics. He immediately scheduled further tests, discovering he had two cysts on his bile duct, which had the potential to develop into the cancer, known as cholangiocarcinoma. No more mr. Nice Guy. I too am a Life VVA member and Past President. There is always the notable distinction between Era Vets and Combat Veterans. The latter group does in fact have an uncommonly high mortality rate, that includes approximately 115, ooo suicides between 1969 and 1989. Sorry about the delay here in answering. (fact check note by Mike Brewer. (Reuters Health) - Higher than average death rates among Vietnam War veterans with post-traumatic stress disorder (PTSD) suggest that combat trauma may still be affecting veterans' health even decades after the war, according to a new study. I know a man who is 86 years old,from Nogales, and was at ground zero at Hiroshima in a grave identification unit, who just filed a claim last year. Hometown: Vega Baja, Puerto Rico. At the same time all my friends whom never served had good jobs and new cars etc. Theres one, just like the ones that we used, painted red, hanging from the ceiling at the Pima Air Museum. Weve used them up we need young ones. Median age is 68 years. but sofar nothing how many are reallyleft? Before the lottery was implemented in the latter part of the Vietnam conflict, there was no system in place to determine order of call besides the fact that men between the ages of 18 and 26 were vulnerable to being drafted. This was partly due to the logistics of the never-ending conflict. Thanks Jim, that was very thorough. I get to testify and present them with the story of a 20 y/o medic carrying dead and wounded around for 14 months in country. They all understand. After reading your article, were lucky to have him. How many Flowers do you need for each level in June's journey? Why are Vietnam vets dying so fast? Why are Vietnam vets dying so fast? I am at 760-550-8083 We can work on both at the same time. Before I married my loving wife, I told her of some of my experiences, but not all of them showed her all themedicine It stopped short of urging them to get ultrasounds or other tests, saying there was currently no evidence the vets had higher infection rates than the general population. Three weeks ago I suffered by 4th stroke, each attributed to ISD. More answers below James Cain None of that, he says, prepared me for the reception at home upon our return.. Nice Web. Im a former member of the 173rd Abn Bde-First (Army) in VNam from The Rock Because they will be OLD and it their turn. One last ramble. The ages of those who served in Vietnam varied anywhere from 55 to 97 years old. Protestors demonstrate for full benefits for all US veterans, including Vietnam War veterans in July, 1974. We spent more forward deployed time than the WW2 vets, we never lost a major battle, we were greeted with the most abuse and disdain from the country we had served than any previous generation of veteran, and we were the genesis of all war-fighting doctrine today. I found out later after I got up that it was someone down the hall from me that shot himself. . Mike why is gods name would all these people claim to have went to that septic tank they call vietnam? we better make it soon . I showed this to a non vet to see if I was not clear (PTSD) and he was shocked at the number of Nam Vets who were passing away. 1995 (census figures). Locality: Detroit, in the state of Michigan. dont know about Some, like Wowwk, say they had invectives hurled their way; others, like naval officer Ford Cole, remember being spit on. If this jogs someones memory than please write on this blog so we can perhaps chat sometime. i had no idea i could apply for a cib, but would like to. What order should I watch Flowers in the Attic series? I was never spit on and in fact the only real negative stuff I saw when I got back was that lots of folks just didnt want to hear from us about our experiences. I had 6 close buddies in Vietnam. In the United States 17-year-olds may join the armed forces with the written agreement of parents. OK I also am wary of statistics thrown out on the web, being a former Marine and a Viet Nam Vet I looked up the numbers from one of the sources indicated.. found that the Naval Health Institute who crunches no. So few can imagine that we were really sprayed with chemicals and had to live with the year of VA Denial. The men who were drafted served and did their jobs well they were all soldiers. There are currently 83,204 unaccounted for U.S.personnel, and the Defense Prisoner of War/Missing Personnel Office at the Pentagon reports that this number includes 73,547 service members from World War II, 7,883 service members from the Korean War, 126 service members from the Cold War, 1,642 service members from the Vietnam War, and six service members from Iraq and other recent conflicts, including three Defense Department personnel. It wasnt a bad idea at all, as Ive learned everything on the Kinah making aspect in this game. Known as the Sky Soldiers, the 173rd Airborne Brigade is an airborne infantry brigade combat team (IBCT) of the United States Army that is stationed in Vicenza, Italy. Im a member of the Vietnam Veterans of American. Div. This was partly due to the logistics of the never-ending conflict. Punchbowl National Cemetery of the Pacific is called. I am unable to find the museums referred to, though I find a National Vietnam War Museum and a Veterans Memorial Museum. Check with your local VA claims agent. Your email address will not be published. We had it nice compared to the line Medics. To me, It means today is a fresh start and we have one more chance at having a normal life. Any numbers on this would be greatly appreciated. For those who believe that the stories of being spit on and being called baby killers and other injustices is crap than you are living in a dream world. Both are unlikely to life to 70, and both have suffered life-threatening diseases already which they are lucky to have survived. The official VA figures for surviving vets of the Viet Nam era show 81% to still be around; the percentage for those who served in Viet Nam is slightly lower, due first to the fact that 58,000 died there. information Im used to reading about WWII and Korean War vets. (LOL) In my mind they were throwing out a SWAG. Call me Pete. Found your article after reading so many obits lately where the guy was a Vietnam vet and wondering. According to an estimate by the New York Times, there were 8.4 million Vietnam veterans who were still alive in the year 2000.Of those, 1.1 million had passed away.It was also estimated that there will be a total of 138,000 Vietnam veterans who will pass away every year from this point forward.Editorial note from the administrator of the website: For me, the estimate from two years ago of 610 thousand seems to make the most sense. DANang In case you havent been paying attention these past few decades after you Another who is 85,from Colorado and was on the USS Rhona in Tunisia in the early stages of WWll who filed his claim at age 80 for PTSD. Most Vietnam Veterans are in their 60s and the average lifespan for a male in USA is 74. This was met by skeptisim by most Veterans groups. A lot of them give me that blank stare like, 'You've got what?'". to The average man who fought in World War II was 26 years of age. By June, Wowwk had been wounded twicethe second time seriouslyand was sent back to the United States for treatment at Bostons Chelsea Naval Hospital. Can I cut apples the night before for apple pie? "I've personally dealt with muscle loss, neuropathy and atrial fibrillation. served in-country . Age: 75. A half century after serving in Vietnam, hundreds of veterans have a new reason to believe they may be dying from a silent bullet test results show some men may have been infected by a. Wished I knew who implanted it. Pu u Owaina in Hawaiian. Recently, a local widow of a serviceman received a shock when. returned from Vietnam , the clock has been ticking. Mike: Served in the 5th SFGA 4th ID, and E/20th Inf from 69-71; went from E1 to E6 all in the 11B series. Why are Vietnam vets dying so fast? Stay alive & sane thanks to Valium I am still alive for now NOT from the V.A., I use my own Doctor. 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