Often, Sarah would be at one party or another and there was Flores. They were meant for Susan Flores asking her to cooperate with police and have her son come forward. ), A sheriff offices spokesman said his agency couldnt say if investigators working Smarts cold case had been made aware or not of the new alleged victims, citing refusal to comment on an open and active investigation.. And yes, we did find physical evidence at, at least two homes. But he entreated each woman who came forward to tell their story to The Daily Beast to reach out to his department. She made a decision that shes regretted ever since. Chris Lambert: That's the upsetting part about it, isn't it? View Details. It's been a long night for the Smart family and San Luis Obispo County Sheriff's detectives as they continued to investigate an Arroyo Grande property belonging to Ruben Flores. The two girls walked to an area off campus where there were fraternities, sororities and residential housing for students. He invoked the Fifth Amendment 27 times. Used to live: San Luis Obispo CA, Arroyo Grande CA, Torrance CA. Chris Lambert: So, if you believe Paul's story, he goes into his dorm room here. More than two decades later, Chris Lambert, a podcaster who was investigating Kristin's disappearance, tracked down and interviewed Mary Lassiter. Chris Lambert: He told those friends he just woke up with the black eye. Deputies seized a mattress cover from the bed with a blood stain. Just very involved with their children. I don't know if Kristin knew anybody there. I told him, You never do this again! But Margarita says, the police did not seem concerned. He'd go through tunnels, under bridges, looking for his daughter and expecting best case scenario. Chris Lambert: The only thing he would confirm on tape is that his name is Paul Flores. Paul Flores - Cal Poly student and Food Science major, Paul Flores lived on campus in room #128 of Santa Lucia Hall Dormitory. Stan and Denise Smart, Kristins parents, sent The Daily Beast a statement praising the women for coming forward to share their stories and hope it leads to a break in their missing daughters case. Paul Flores may have wanted a fresh start in Southern California, but Chris Lambert says, he could not seem to break old habits. He would be stalking me.. I had zero interest in her, according to prosecutors. They didn't bring a forensics team. But while campus police weren't doing much, Kristin's parents were doing whatever they could to find their daughter. Jonathan Vigliotti: They thought she was off possibly having fun. Chris Lambert says, two days after that, when Flores was interviewed by campus police, they asked how he got his black eye as well as scratches on his hands and knees. She has not been charged with any crimes in connection with the case. BOE-A-2023-5092 Orden JUS/181/2023, de 21 de febrero, por la que se aprueba la relacin provisional de personas admitidas y excluidas en el proceso selectivo para acceso libre, al Cuerpo de Gestin Procesal y Administrativa de la Administracin de Justicia, convocado por Orden JUS/1254/2022, de 7 de diciembre. Sarah said shes still haunted by Flores. He'd go anywhere. Denise Pearce: She was becoming more and more alarmed, you know? The Arroyo Grande cops, Jane said, favored Floress story that she willingly drank and had sex that night. Produced by Lisa Freed. Witnesses said she didnt smell like alcohol, but she quickly became so incapacitated that she passed out face-down on the houses front lawn. Copyright 2023 CBS Interactive Inc. All rights reserved. The next thing I know is the cops telling me We cant do anything because [Paul] and his friend are saying she was drunk and it was consensual., But Jane said she fought to get them to reconsider. Chris Lambert: Kristin became incredibly intoxicated, whether she was drugged or whether she just had a lot to drink in a short amount of time She ends up passed out on the lawn next door. Im good. She was saved by their male roommate, who barged in because of Lauras blood-curdling screams. Denise Pearce: The phone call never comes. Just five months before Kristin disappeared, San Luis Obispo Police received a call from a student living off campus. Murphy immediately filed a wrongful death lawsuit against Flores in civil court. every piece of evidence points directly at Paul Flores. James Murphy: they let the dog in, the dog makes a beeline to the bed of Paul Flores. Chris Lambert spoke with some women who knew Flores back then. Like the rest of the family, Kristin was an athlete. The Kristin Smart disappearance: After 26 years, Paul Flores is convicted of murder. Early on, a small group of volunteers also looked for Kristin. I've got her. I did have guilt about that. JAMES MURPHY: Your husband have information as to where Kristin Smart's body is located? He was the last person seen with her. PODCAST EPISODE 5: If you were making a film about a new law enforcer who's coming to a small town to save the day, you'd probably cast Parkinson. so eventually he unlocked you know, the apartment door, and I left. It's just a motivator for me. SHERIFF IAN PARKINSON [at press conference]: Forensic physical evidence was located. Paul owns a home in San Pedro, CA . They were giggling as they were dragging me, the now 39-year-old woman told The Daily Beast. Lambert says Kristin could not stand on her own, so fellow student Cheryl Anderson who was also at the party began helping her back to campus. A now-retired FBI agent believes those remains were once buried at the home of Floress mother. She was looking forward to hearing from Kristin that Sunday. But Paul Flores was never charged with any of these incidents. Paul Flores lives in San Pedro, CA; previous city include Arroyo Grande CA. It's fine. Susan Flores and her boyfriend were never charged in the case. It sounded like a digital watch alarm, but Lassiter couldn't find a watch anywhere outside. She was she was frantic I don't understand this, you know? Lindsey Smart Stewart: She had traveled the world before she even made it to college. D.A. I dont like to talk about it to even him, she said. School was over, so campus police found an empty room that had been sanitized by the university's cleaning crew. Paul Flores, lower left, remained in jail without bail while Ruben Flores, upper right, was able to post bail after a judge agreed to lower the bail amount from $250,000 to $50,000, San Luis Obispo County Superior Court/Zoom, How a tragic boating crash is connected to the family of Alex Murdaugh, Husband of woman murdered with an ax convicted 40 years after her death, Five deaths with a connection to Alex Murdaugh's family investigated, Florida man tries to use COVID-19 as a cover for murder. But as Chris Lambert learned, Flores's pattern of behavior with women didn't stop. More than two decades after Kristin Smart vanished, Sheriff Ian Parkinson says that Paul Flores, left, remains the only suspect in her disappearance. But Flores' basketball friends told investigators that he already had the. Sources tell us investigators discovered videos and photographs on Flores' computer showing him engaged in sexual activity with at least 10 different women, apparently in various states of consciousness. Lives in: Arroyo Grande CA. Me, my sister, my cousinPaul has no limits, she said, requesting anonymity. Two days after her daughter went missing, Denise Smart got a call from Cal Poly's campus police. JAMES MURPHY: In May of 96 were you a student at Cal Poly? Ermelinda Flores After a wonderful life, Ermelinda Correa-Flores, 89, entered an eternal rest in her own home in Richland, MO on Sunday, June 19, 2022.<br>Ermelinda was born on June 29, 1932, in San Perlita, Texas to Rafela Posada. Chris Lambert: A young couple moves into it with their kid. to find the next challenge. Let's go." Jonathan Vigliotti: There was a lot of focus on how Kristin was drinking what sounded a lot like victim shaming. He had pinned her down and had his hand down her bathing suit groping her.. Chris Lambert: Everything else, he took the Fifth Amendment. That mother, Mary Lassiter, described it to Chris Lambert. Smart was last seen with Flores's son Paul. Wednesday morning, KSBY crews witnessed sheriff's deputies and FBI investigators at the Arroyo Grande home of Susan Flores, the mother of the only person-of-interest in the case, Paul. They didn't look at the Flores family's vehicles. By the time Cal Poly police began investigating, Kristin had been gone for four days. They also did not focus on Paul Flores immediately, waiting six days to formally interview him. But cadaver dogs told a different story. Hes on top of me. Another frustration for the Smarts: at the time Kristin disappeared, investigators weren't aware that Paul Flores's parents were separated and living apart. What happened in the privacy of his room that night? Peuvrelle asked the jury. The Smarts' younger daughter, Lindsey, described her parents to Vigliotti: "I think they're like carrying boulders on their backs.". To declare to the public if you stay quiet, you will get away with this. Margarita Campos: I was expecting her to knock on my door and be, like, "Oh, Margarita, you missed a rager. (The office hired a detective in 2015 to work on Unsolved Crimes for $15,000 a month: There are four open homicide investigations and Smarts remains an unsolved missing persons case. He never expected it would be a hit, but his podcast caught the attention of millions of listeners and sparked new interest in this decades-old unsolved case. It was just the three of them standing in the kitchen before Jane was handed a plastic cup. But as Chris Lambert learned, campus police did not act right away. The backyard was all concrete except for a couple of areas where planter boxes had been created by cutting out the concrete and filling them with soil. Flores claimed he walked Smart to her dorm at Cal Poly, San Luis Obispo on May 25, 1996 after a night of binge drinking. In the months after Kristin's disappearance, one truck was traded in and the other was reported stolen. At a Halloween party back in 1995before Smart had gone missingFlores allegedly grabbed Sarahs crotch on the dance floor. Kristin Smart and Paul Flores were briefly seen speaking to each other during the party. PODCAST EPISODE 3 | MARY LASSITER: It was like a red thing and it was like a smudge-like fingerprinted look on the back, just red, like maroon, like old looking and the smudge that it was like half a fingerprint. After seizing an old car, digging in the back yard and taking evidence San Luis Obispo County sheriff deputies concluded a two search of an Arroyo Grande home related to the 1996. At least one, since The Daily Beast began reporting, said she has been interviewed by the San Luis Obispo Sheriffs Office. I knocked on her door, and I thought she was just sleeping, or she went out and about, you know? People are watching Ruben Flores and Susan Flores and Paul Flores. Denise had told Lambert that her daughter had been working as a lifeguard at the university's rec center, and every morning Kristin's watch alarm went off to make sure she was at the pool by 5 a.m. Over the years, law enforcement and the Smarts' lawyers have searched Susan Flores's backyard several times, but nothing has ever been found. SALINAS, Calif. (KRON) In the wake of Kristin Smarts disappearance from Cal Polys campus, detectives knew Paul Flores was lying through his teeth, according to prosecutors. That's when Denise Smart learned her daughter had not been seen all weekend, and all her belongings were still in her dorm room. Some of those women who did not want their real names used told Lambert about their encounters with him. The detective noticed was Paul was nervous and his heart was beating out of his chest. Whatever happened in those early hours, one thing is indisputable: Kristin Smart has never been seen again. They are aware that they had no eye witnesses, a body was not recovered, there is no physical evidence, and no forensic evidence, Sanger said. RUBEN FLORES: [long pause] We never asked that question. Investigators are currently digging under Rubin Flores' home in another apparent attempt to find the missing teen's body. He wouldn't answer a single thing. Ruben's attorney, Harold Mesick, dismissed the evidence against his client as "so minimal as to shock the conscience.". Greg Fisher and Michelle Fanucci are the development producers. I wasnt freaked out.. They have not been able to proceed with the civil case while there was an ongoing criminal investigation, but that didn't stop them from following every lead and preparing for an eventual trial. And DNA evidence could not be found linking any other evidence to Kristin. Lindsey Smart Stewart: "You should go to Cal Poly. PAUL FLORES: On the advice of my attorney . Still to this day I am afraid to go to the bathroom by myself in public places, she said, admitting she still asks her husband every time to stand sentry at the door when she has to go. Jonathan Vigliotti: And that phone call never comes. Denise Pearce | Longtime family friend: Things were gonna get better and, you know, and and they did. She was gone. He later argued that the biological evidence found under the deck was not conclusively human blood. This is about the facts. Some even wondered if she might have been drugged. Chris Lambert: And he says he got a black eye playing basketball with his friends. Ruben lived here with his wife, Susan, and their children, Ermelinda and Paul. Her dorm entrance is right over here. PODCAST EPISODE 4: At 8 a.m. on June 19th, 2000, a team of sheriff's investigators knocks on the front door of Susan Flores's East Branch Street home. Chris Lambert: I wish I knew why. Denise Pearce: The investigation was completely botched by the campus police. Since speaking with The Daily Beast, at least one of the women who has come forward saying Flores attacked her has been questioned by a detective working the Smart case. At the time of Smart's disappearance, Flores was a 19-year-old food science major at Cal-Poly. For more than two decades, her family, friends, and supporters searched for answers and for justice. The National Read Across America Day takes place every year on March 2, Geisels birthday. Even worse they never sealed his dorm room. She never saw accepting the rides as anything but wholesome. When The Daily Beast tracked Flores down outside his home last month, he didnt mount much of a defense. During one interrogation with campus police on May 28, 1996, Flores story changed about what happened after Anderson left. San Luis Obispo County Sheriff deputies arrested Paul Flores, the primary suspect in the disappearance of Kristin Smart, and his father, Ruben Flores, at separate locations Tuesday morning. Chris Lambert: I didn't know the scale. She regretfully denounced them as cruel rumors at the time. James Murphy: Well, the location where all this activity occurred is where they found the biological material. If you use a windshield cover, you can at least forget about scrapping the ice off your windshield to save some time and hassle. In 2011, the Smarts hoped those boulders would become a little lighter when Ian Parkinson became the new sheriff of San Luis Obispo County. Later, he told detectives that Smart was walking just fine and returned to her dorm while he returned to his dorm. By the time they called the Cal Poly campus police, Kristin had been missing for more than 48 hours. Her parents, Denise and Stan were both educators who encouraged their kids' passions. No charges were filed, but Lambert discovered Flores's troubles started at a young age. Chris Lambert: It's mostly frat guys from the Kappa Chi fraternity. PODCAST EPISODE 2 | WOMAN #1: I wasn't surprised, but there's also that shock value of kind of "oh my god, I knew it! James Murphy: They're interested in seeing Paul Flores get convicted and Ruben Flores get held accountable. Ermelinda Macarthur currently lives in Kenmore, WA; in the past Ermelinda has also lived in Long Beach CA, Arroyo Grande CA and Bothell WA. Meanwhile, three other women told The Daily Beast that Flores sexually assaulted them after Janes assault and Smarts disappearance. Flores admitted he promised another student, CherylAnderson, that he would make sure Smart made it back to her dorm room in Muir Hall safely from the party. It was never like Hey you want to go hookup? He never made advances and he would just say Hi at school.. But every Sunday when she called her parents, they encouraged her to stick it out. AKA: Susan Flores, Sue P Flores. The next morning, Margarita waited to hear from Kristin. . After all these years, Sheriff Parkinson says that Paul Flores continues to be their number one suspect. The family attorney refused to comment when reached by The Daily Beast. On October 18, 2022, Paul Flores was found guilty of first-degree murder. She spotted an ad for a rental that a woman named Susan Flores had put in. Murphy alleges four nights later, strange activity was seen at Ruben's house. But you have to understand, she was a really independent free spirit. The lawsuit claims they were moving Kristin's remains. In October 2022, Paul. Lived In Dublin CA, King Of Prussia PA, Norristown PA. Related To Cooper Flores. Friday, May 24, 1996, was the start of the Memorial Day weekend. I got in his face, the ex-boyfriend, who requested anonymity, told The Daily Beast. That could have been me.. Susan Flores's backyard has been the focus of widespread speculation. Back in San Luis Obispo, the Smarts, feeling ignored by the sheriff's office, continued a relentless campaign to get them to do more to find their daughter. So now you've got three different stories about how he got that black eye. The sheriff's office still wasn't convinced they had enough evidence against Flores. I guess you can call it little white lies, Flores told detectives. I told her I didn't I didn't want to go. Margarita Campos: I mean, she was gone. Paul had this look on his face, the relative said. Chris Lambert's podcast caught the attention of millions of listeners and sparked new interest in the decades-old unsolved case of Kristin Smart. PODCAST EPISODE 2 [LAMBERT READING REPORT] Smart does not have any close friends at Cal Poly. Chris Lambert: Kristin's father would come down and hike every trail he could find on the Central Coast. Instead, on Monday, May 27, Denise Pearce says the Smarts got a call from Cal Poly's campus police asking if Kristin was with them. James Murphy: And it says wrongful death and then I put murder. By herself, which is pretty amazing. He apparently would tag along with a sloshed friend, crashing off-campus parties together wherever she was. Jonathan Vigliotti: How did you know she hadn't been back? When they showed up, it was Paul Flores. Chris Lambert: They did a significant amount of digging underneath the house. Denise Pearce: To be almost there. In the fall of 1996, a young mother named Mary Lassiter was looking for a house to rent in Arroyo Grande, California. "48 Hours" has learned these suspicions center around evidence found during that 2020 search of Paul Flores' home. Nearly a week after their arrests, father and son both pleaded not guilty in San Luis Obispo County Superior Court. He noticed Paul Flores would randomly walk through the halls of Muir Dorm. And there were those nonstop tales of Flores being touchy-feely with her friends. And I was screaming. The Kristin Smart Scholarship has been established by her family to help other college bound women pursue their dreams. So before leaving, Margarita handed over her keys to get back into Muir Hall. Why? It would be three more years before the property was searched again. They asked him not to use their names: PODCAST EPISODE 2 | WOMAN #1: Well his nickname was "Scary Paul.". Chris Lambert: I remember seeing it on the news it was something scary and they were talking about it pretty regularly. She didn't think that was OK. Back in May 1996, Kristin Smart was finishing her freshman year at California Polytechnic State University better known as Cal Poly. He hired a detective to work full time on the case, and over the past nine years deputies have carried out searches, conducted new interviews, and gathered additional evidence. / CBS News, (This story previously aired on May 8, 2021. A jury acquitted Ruben Flores of the charge of being an accessory after the fact. The charming blue house with the picket fence on East Branch Street seemed perfect. But Sarah kneed Flores in the groin and kicked him in the shin before dashing off into the party. But to fully understand Chris Lambert's contribution, you have to go back to the beginning. In June of 1996, the San Luis Obispo County Sheriffs Office brought in four cadaver dogs to sniff dorms on campus. Jonathan Vigliotti found Flores outside his home in Southern California and asked him a number of questions about Kristin's disappearance. Also known as Melinda E Flores. I would turn around and he would be right there lurking, the woman, referred to here by a pseudonym, said. In fact, Cheryl Anderson, who trusted Flores to walk Kristin back to her dorm alone, told police that her friends called him "Chester the molester," because he was known for groping girls. I'm going to go back to the dorms. Flores father is now charged with helping cover up the homicide by burying Smarts body in his Arroyo Grande homes backyard. In the crowd, taking it all in, was that podcaster, Chris Lambert. There was no change in the soil consistent with that.. He was seeing someone on the side who he called his friend, she said. James Murphy: There's no way to get evidence back once you've lost it. A single woman's earring. Paul Flores was the last person seen with Kristin Smart before she vanished in 1996. The murder trial began on Monday with opening statements from prosecutors and Flores defense attorney. And the body's not there now. PODCAST EPISODE 3: Something shiny catches her eye next to the front driver side tire. She left them only after he promised to take Kristin back to her dorm. Back then, Jane remembered Flores pulling up to her on multiple occasions behind the wheel of a green pickup truck. 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